elliott and miss, what was it? and mr. aaron klein with the book "impeerable defenses" >> no. ryed, i'm not here to -- woah, i'm not here to promote a book. we're having a discussion. >> well, apparently you fell for it this, is what it is. it's a publicity stunt. this group, center for immigration studies we know what they are. it's a quasi, nonprofit organization behind bush's failed attempt -- >> i can tell i'm going to have to pull in reigns here. answer this question. if you've got someone in this country illegally who commits a violent crime should have person, after serving time here not be deported back to their country? >> yes or no? >> of course they are. they're being deported all the time. this report is misleading. >> the ice report is misleading? immigration and customs enforcement? numbers are a lie? >> judge, judge, interpretation is wrong the people that are being released, we cannot hold them forever. half of them for minor traffic offenses. >> no. no. no, no, ryed i don't want to fight with you. i want to hear from the sheriff. you're saying if they serve th